With wars raging, censorship on the rise and all manner of accepted human rights under threat both close to home and across the globe, how do fiction writers approach the dystopian genre when the line between fictional dystopias and our lived reality seems increasingly blurred?

Celeste Ng (Our Missing Hearts), Booker Prize-longlisted author of The Chimes and Bird Life, Anna Smaill and author of Ockham NZ Book Awards longlisted Turncoat Tīhema Baker (Raukawa te Au ki te Tonga, Ātiawa ki Whakarongotai, Ngāti Toa Rangatira) join Murdoch Stephens to discuss.